da_wizard
dude......I have to move to Germany......thats an insane line-up.......Europe has the best festivals.....those lucky bastards

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DirtButton
I'm kinda suprised nobody has tried to do that here in the states.
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Crazy_eyes
I'll get something like that eventually.
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Nando
DirtButton wrote:

I'm kinda suprised nobody has tried to do that here in the states.


Honestly dude, that would not be nearly as successful here in the states as it is in Europe. Metal is bigger over there than it is here and traveling to a destination even like Wacken is easier in Europe with their awesome rail system than it is here with our bad one. But I would like to see something like this be attempted on possibly a slightly smaller scale. It would not be as big or successful but maybe it could grow over years.
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DamnYankee07
It would be nice to have a destination festival in the US for metal. Yes, maybe it wouldn't be "quite" as successful as Wacken, but I think it could still be successful. I know if announced soon enough I could save money and probably make a trip in the  US, but I know at this point there's no way I could make it to Wacken. It sucks, but it is what it is.  :-\

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dcoctavarium
I still can't believe I passed on WOA 3yrs ago...
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DreadLord344
Nando wrote:

DirtButton wrote:

I'm kinda suprised nobody has tried to do that here in the states.


Honestly dude, that would not be nearly as successful here in the states as it is in Europe. Metal is bigger over there than it is here and traveling to a destination even like Wacken is easier in Europe with their awesome rail system than it is here with our bad one. But I would like to see something like this be attempted on possibly a slightly smaller scale. It would not be as big or successful but maybe it could grow over years.


It really depends on where it was hosted and who would be playing. If it was announced in January and scheduled for late summer people would have plenty of time to make travel accommodations.  The thing that makes traveling in Europe seem easier is that their countries are all about the size of our states.  We have functioning train systems and railways, cross country buses, etc.  If it was driving distance from a transportation hub like Grand Central in NY (driving distance meaning less than 4 hours) then I could see it working.

The main thing with doing something like this (I've been looking into it for 3 years) is getting permits (liquor permits can be a pain in the ass) and finding a place big enough for parking, patrons, vendors, concession, stage, and the bands' buses and whatever else.  If there's no electricity around you have to make sure you have enough generators to power everything.  Build the stage, mark off campsites, sell tickets.  You've also gotta talk to the fire marshal, police department, and a hospital(paramedics) about getting everything you need from them.

Food stands, merchandise vendors, etc are all a pain in the ass to get, and a lot of times will back out of something during its inaugural run.  Ticket sales can be hit or miss (though at least for the first year tickets would probably sell out just because something like this hasn't happened since Woodstock...and that wasn't even all metal).

On top of everything else, after going through all the behind the scenes bullshit...you've gotta get the bands.  After getting the bands you've gotta make a schedule (being sure to comply with any local noise ordinances, should your location be near a residential area).

Probably the most important part about running a giant concert- the fucking stage crew.  A lot of bands don't come with their own (very often a venue will hire out their own people...it's actually becoming kinda rare for a band to have a crew of their own) and if the guys you pick can't get shit done FAST between sets it could turn into a clusterfuck.

Go watch Wayne's World 2...it's not even close to what setting up an actual concert, but it's a good movie.
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MikeGimmelli
it' be fuckin sweet to go to wacken.  and i dont know what people are talkin about here, there are plenty of 2/3 day destination festivals on the U.S.  its just that the line ups are never really as good as wacken's thats all.
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DreadLord344
Skull And Crossbones wrote:

it' be fuckin sweet to go to wacken.  and i dont know what people are talkin about here, there are plenty of 2/3 day destination festivals on the U.S.  its just that the line ups are never really as good as wacken's thats all.


They must do a shitty job of advertising...other than the gathering of the trailer trash I can't name any.
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sweet_dark
I have to go to Wacken before I die...

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zfw
sweet_dark wrote:

I have to go to Wacken before I die...

me too......
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MikeGimmelli
and also just to clarify, the bands underneath the 'New England Metal And Hardcore Festival XII' advertisement are actually for 'Rockfest'.  i couldnt find an advertisement for 'Rockfest' that had the line up on it.  and i just noticed that the way i posted it, it looks a little misleading.
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DreadLord344
Skull And Crossbones wrote:

and also just to clarify, the bands underneath the 'New England Metal And Hardcore Festival XII' advertisement are actually for 'Rockfest'.  i couldnt find an advertisement for 'Rockfest' that had the line up on it.  and i just noticed that the way i posted it, it looks a little misleading.


The problem with the New England fest is it's a metal and hardcore festival...the name right there implies shitty music.

Luckily satellite pictures of campgrounds/fairgrounds are easy to come by now...the only problem is finding a place that would let something like that happen.
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MikeGimmelli
DreadLord344 wrote:

Skull And Crossbones wrote:

and also just to clarify, the bands underneath the 'New England Metal And Hardcore Festival XII' advertisement are actually for 'Rockfest'.  i couldnt find an advertisement for 'Rockfest' that had the line up on it.  and i just noticed that the way i posted it, it looks a little misleading.


The problem with the New England fest is it's a metal and hardcore festival...the name right there implies shitty music.

Luckily satellite pictures of campgrounds/fairgrounds are easy to come by now...the only problem is finding a place that would let something like that happen.




these are the bands that played this year:


Friday April 23rd

Mastodon
Between The Buried And Me
Baroness
Valiant Thorr
Cro Mags
Earth Crisis
Death Threat
Howl
After The Burial
Architect UK
Burning Empires
C.O.A.
Death Before Dishonor
Donnybrook
Doomriders
Fall Of Troy
Grave Maker
Mongoloids
Monsters
Black Pyramid
Thick As Blood
XTheWarX


Saturday April 24th

Cannibal Corpse
Amon Amarth
Job For A Cowboy
Whitechapel
Skeletonwitch
The Red Chord
Municipal Waste
Disembodied
Cruel Hand
Abacabb
Acaro
Across The Sun
Alpha & Omega
Arsonists Get All The Girls
Cattle Decapitation
Chelsea Grin
Eluveit
Forfeit
Gaza
Holy Grail
Impending Doom
Lecherous Nocturne
Malfice
Mother Of Mercy
Periphery
Reign Supreme
Rose Funeral
Soul Control
Swashbuckle
The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza
Through The Eyes Of The Dead
XTyrantX


i think most people on here would go to a festival that had a line up like that.
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